Interesting development from the NZ Herald:
“A second shooting happened at a mosque in the Linwood area of the city. One Friday prayer goer returned fire with a rifle or shotgun.
Witnesses said they heard multiple gunshots around 1.45pm. A well known Muslim local chased the shooters and fired two shots at them as they sped off.
He was heard telling police officers he was firing in “self defence”.
“They were in a silver Subaru,” he told police.”
Now bear in mind, this still remains unconfirmed. There usually is a lot of confusion during the first few hours, in terms of information, of these events. If true, this is huge and disruptive to the “ban all guns narrative.” Who would have thought that return fire could save lives?
We’ve heard very little of the second attack and the other three people who were arrested so far, all the focus has been on the gunman and Jacinda Ardern’s vow to disarm the country.
Meanwhile, it took 36 minutes for New Zealand Police to get this under control:
“The arrest of Brenton Tarrant took 36 minutes from the first emergency call, New Zealand’s police Commissioner Mike Bush said.
“That is an incredibly fast response time, you have a mobile offender across a large metropolitan city,” a police representative said, considering he was a mobile offender.
Mr Bush said police were on the scene much faster than that.”
Even if you can stomach watching the sickening video, it’s about 15 minutes before the first Police sirens are heard when Tarrant is in the vehicle driving away. That’s still an awfully long time to wait for help in that context. The average active shooter event is about 3 to 11 minutes.
In a sense this is exactly what the “only Police should have guns” crowd don’t understand, whether wilfully or otherwise. Allowing only law enforcement to have firearms for self-defence doesn’t keep you safe. All it does is pass the risk and responsibility for your own protection down the line to a public servant. The bad guy has all the advantage of time and space while you wait for someone to come and save you.
A simple look at the poor victims sheltering in the corner of the mosque yesterday tells you that. What were they supposed to do? Get their phones out?
The first responder is always the victim, not the Police.
NZ Police general duties officers have been equipped with AR15’s in their vehicles for years and it took 36 minutes for them to get this guy under control. Not to denigrate Police in their already difficult duties, a fluid situation like this is incredibly difficult at the best of times, but it just further illustrates how quickly things can change and how much damage can be done in such a short space of time, no matter what implement is used. As an example, it took 90 seconds for a madman in Nice, France to run over and kill 88 people and injure 434 more.
We saw the Sutherland Springs shooting was stopped by a good guy with an AR15 just last year. There are a plethora of other examples where this has occurred and are a simple Google away, but the MSM continues to ignore it.
These and future acts will not be stopped by reactive Police intervention or disarming the public and it bears mentioning that if only Police should have AR15’s to stop mass shootings, then why couldn’t they stop this in time yesterday?
These questions and more still remain. Whether they are even going to be asked is another story, as it seems not less than 24 hours afterwards the media and Ardern are already asking for gun control, right out of the John Howard playbook.